Jehovah’s Witnesses: A Burger & A Bible?

Mar 10, 2018 by

I observed something interesting the other day.

I stopped by my favorite burger restaurant for lunch and sat down at a table. I didn’t realize it but a full-blown Watchtower “home Bible study” was going on in the booth right behind me.

The “student” was a special needs man and the “conductor” looked like he had just gotten out of a halfway house. He was dressed in a tee shirt and sweat-pants and sported a three-day stubble.

Apparently, the standards of decorum have radically changed since I was attending. Where are the dress shirt, tie, and coat?

I saw the telltale publications and heard the all too frequent use of “Jehovah” in the conversation. The special needs man was barely literate and was having a very difficult time reading the publication out loud. However, the conductor was quite patient and even exhorted the young man about how “heartwarming” it was to hear his answers, even though he read them straight off the page. That really brought me back when I heard the study conductor’s well-rehearsed tonality and the use of the special phrases that were taught to me when I was in the Kingdom Ministry School.

Since I’ve gotten some “distance” between myself and the organization over the past several decades, I look at this bunch of charlatans, not as a threat to me, nor a point of exasperation but sad. Just plain sad.

They target and victimize the weak, the uneducated, the disenfranchised and for what? So they can “sell” their precious Watchtowers and inflict a bunch of man-made rules and guilt-trips on an unknowing public.

I thought about saying something and then I thought “Perhaps this is the young man’s only shot at a sense of self-worth and community. Maybe this is his one chance to actually learn to read, write and speak without stuttering or tripping over his words.” Who was I to take that away from him? I shrugged off the thought as I topped off my Diet Dr. Pepper.

As I crawled into my pickup to leave, my cell phone rang. The call was a recorded message claiming to be the IRS and it told me that they were going to send the cops to my house if I didn’t call them back and straighten out some ridiculous amount of money that I owed. That call was quite a good metaphor for what is being done to millions of unsuspecting followers of the Watchtower leadership. They’re listening to people who don’t know what they’re talking about but are very good at instilling fear and guilt in their audience. Enough fear and guilt to force their listeners into a lifetime of slavery and obedience to a litany of rules and regulations that limit their happiness and their ability to think for themselves.

I guess there are always going to be “wolves in sheep’s clothing” and I guess there are always going to be “sheep”.

I think it was P.T. Barnum who said it best: “There’s a sucker born every minute.” He was absolutely right.

Doug Shields

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  1. Mike Verrecchia

    Love it sounds like my ex wife and her daughter who goes door to door representing Satan

  2. Edward

    Douglas, I too feel sad when I think about those poor JW’s who do not know better. They trust and follow, believing they found “the truth”. Yet, I must admit I feel anger when I see Elders or those that should know better! They have the means and some intelligence to question (or should have) JW theology and history.Many are born into it and simply, blindly follow. Edward

  3. Anonymous

    A carload of jw’s dropped by to give me an invitation to the memorial. I had told them that I was raised as a child but left a few years after 1975 in my late teens, so they knew my position. I took the invitation and thanked them. I also felt a sadness and compassion for they are so full of fear, quibbling on doctrine but missing the larger picture. If anyone is looking for a thought-provoking read, get a copy of The Pagan Christ by Tom Harpur. You won’t look at religion, any religion, in the same way again.

  4. JustJen

    Love your commentary, and maybe you could find where the man came from and go do some un-witnessing. And its funny how we think when we are in, that we know the Bible even though we are to read it cover to cover every year… yet sadly we don’t. I spent some time listening to a preacher on tv, and I swear it was like being back in the KH! Although he presented in a more likable manner, but if you want to get a big laugh and have Amazon Prime there is a series called “Holy S***” that deals with the book and how some things are really unbelievable; also how many people God has killed opposed to Satan! Anyway after going through Ray’s book, I will take and read some of your other postings!

  5. Thanks for the book recommendation!

  6. Elizabeth Collins


    I understand how a “throwback” like this to the past can create great sadness in those of us who left. I also understand that some may succumb to becoming Witnesses, at least in part, due to guilt and fear. However, I believe that most prospective members are vulnerable to the Witnesses’ message because they have suffered loss of family and/or community
    , have been marginalized by mainstream society, have experienced betrayal by someone they trusted or a traumatic event, or want very badly to believe it’s possible to find concrete answers to life’s big questions. Then when someone announces the answers, offers them a huge family full of genuine “love,” makes them feel wanted, and holds out the promise of possibly never growing old and dying before Armageddon–its a powerful elixir they drink with delight.
    My poor mother was in this situation back in 1953 when a Witness simply showed her the Let God be True book and asked her if she would like to learn all about God and Jesus. Nearly friendless in a new place and having recently lost both parents and two siblings in death, as well as being poor, uneducated, and unhappy in her marriage, she readily accepted the offered Bible study and the course of all our lives was tragically changed. Fear and guilt did not draw her to the Witnesses, but the promise of a loving family, bright future, and absolute truth did.
    Fear and guilt are possibly the two biggest tools the Witnesses use to KEEP and CONTROL members, but in the 40 years that I was a Witness, I rarely saw them used to attract members. Even when some article in the Watchtower or other publication discussed the last days and Armageddon and we presented it to the householder, it was in the context of being God’s method of doing away with all sorrow and pain and “making all things new” in the paradise to follow. I think it’s important to understand that for the potential convert, the perceived benefits exert far more attraction to join than fear and guilt. Most of that sets in later, according to what I have experienced and personally observed.
    Thanks for listening, and I hope life is good for you.


  7. Manipulation and control are the key factors that I look at very hard when someone is trying to “help” me.

    I also keep a hand on my wallet.


  8. Anonymous

    I felt the exact same way when I finally realized the truth about the JW organization that I was part of for most of my life. Obviously while you are living that lie of a life, you incorporate your children into what seems natural at that time but thank God I could make her see the truth. It took months for me to convince her to leave as I was also up against an entire organization that cupped her, heavily trying to influence her to break ties with me and at times it felt like I was losing the battle. I knew that sending her away would be a waste of time so I flipped the script and used their teachings as an example of what true lovers of God do not practice. Present day, she tells me that she felt like she was in a trance and can’t believe the type of person she was when she was mesmerized as a member of that organization. Thank you for sharing Doug.


  9. Thank you Arihia!

    It’s interesting that you used the term “mesmerized”. I believe that mind control is used at the highest level in this organization. I’ve studied influence and hypnosis for years and the fact is that the Jehovah’s Witnesses utilize both in their meetings, their study materials and in their special phrases that are designed to get maximum compliance from the intended target.

    The amazing thing is that this is done by mimicking the leadership. They don’t have to call it hypnosis, they just have to do it and the rest follow suit. Making someone sit and listen to mind-numbing drivel for hours on end is going to put them into a trance anyway.

    Kind of makes you understand why the Watchtower strongly warns their followers against allowing themselves to be hypnotized doesn’t it? They don’t want someone else going where they’ve already set up shop!

    Imagine how messed up kids get listening to this stuff for five hours or more per week? It’s very scary.

    I’m so glad you got your daughter out of this cult.


  10. Anonymous

    thanks Doug.

  11. Pastor David Hall

    Earlier someone posted about the Pagan Christ and that is what it is all about. To a point I agree with what the poster wrote. Right from when the Pagan Constantine got his ‘Revelation’ from god, it was the start of the pagan infiltrated religion we now know as Roman Catholic and its many offshoots such as Eastern Orthodox, Coptic and then of course Protestantism started off by ruthless men such as Luther and Calvin.

    The Roman Church changed the name of Kyriaki (Lord’s Day) to (Sunday) to what we now know as ‘worship of the Sun day’ and that is why the halo’s depictions of the Sun are put behind the false christ (Appolo) and the so called saints. The ‘Orothodox’ cults have many Icons to worship and they are of course false demonic gods.

    The Greek word for our Saturday is Savvato which is taken from the Hebrew Shabbat. So the evil empire of Satan was weaved into what is now known as ‘christianity’ and has polluted practically every denomination of that ‘sect’ around the world all becaming a section of that filthy religion that worships demons.

    This mishmash of religious clap trap was weaved into the RC church and Anglican derivitives are soaked in this religiopolitical cult. The whole system is founded on the ‘evil empire’ torturing, executing and controlling the masses by its total obedience to its Pope or subsidary. The many evangelical groups are now being sucked back into its snare. People like Billy Graham, Rick Warren and many others praised this current satanic Pope who is a Jesuit who will defend the relgion and its leader, rather than honour the real God, Yahweh and his real Son Yeshua.

    This is all leading to the One World Order, which the JWs are really a part of, in fact we all know they are always talking about the New Order, The New World Order and so on. It is all a Satanic way of merging lies with some of the truth. Yeshau himself said that ‘the thief comes to steal, kill and destroy’ and that is exactly what has happened since man first went Satans way.

    No wonder we are all in a mess and the World is getting darker and darker.

  12. Anonymous

    Hi Pastor David,
    Yes, The Pagan Christ encompasses those aspects of paganism mixed with Christianity, but it’s far more reaching. It takes religious history one step further and there are eternal themes from the beginning of recorded time.
    I think the title doesn’t do the book justice. If you haven’t read, consider doing so.

  13. And I think your words rang true when you stated: “If you haven’t read…”

    We live in a world where facts don’t matter anymore. People’s opinions are thrown around by the flimsiest of arguments as if they hold water. In most cases, they simply don’t.

    How many times do we hear on the news, about someone judging something or someone without knowing all the facts or even having read the thing they are arguing about?

    One thing the Jehovah’s Witnesses taught me well was to be wary of any dogmatic viewpoint and to distrust people who say that they alone have the truth.

    I’m reading the book you recommended. I may or may not weigh in with my opinion of it once finished.



  14. Bill Stoughton

    Sadly this Satanic organization’s many followers are so deceived, that they don’t want to know the truth. They are much worse off than someone that was never exposed to the Bible.

    I guess they never stopped to think that someone who is telling you what to believe or that these elementary, childish publications are explaining this to you is really more important than the Bible.

    It’s hard for me to comprehend how you as an adult don’t even question these things. I would understand a child or mentally challenged person, but not a normal intelligent person.

    Well all we can do is pray for them and if and when presented an opportunity to witness to them.


  15. I’ve always said it plainly: If you want to know God, read His book.

    Instead, most want someone else to give them the “Cliff Notes” and interpret it for them.


  16. John

    So much to be concerned about, especially those who just don’t know. Let us encourage one another in Him. Christ said ” take courage; I have over come the world” So, with all the nastiness of sin and Satan ,remember that God’s grace abounds all the more. Folks, can we at least be dogmatic about one thing and that is if we cling to Christ, that is, if we are found in Him we cannot lose. So, if we cannot lose it’s others that need what we have Christ and Him crucified. Just an encouraging word.

  17. Anonymous

    I didn’t understand until recently that the Watchtower is full of lies and is ultimately part of the New World agenda. My families’ thoughts are not their own. Now, I’m consumed with praying for guidance to help them. They are good people but unknowingly self righteous. I’ve distanced myself from them in an attempt to keep my sanity. Our families are from the same neck of the woods. I’d love an opportunity to communicate directly with you. My father always thought highly of yours. Referred to him as a walking encyclopedia.

  18. Dad was a wonderful man. He really cared about people. He lived his life in a way that was truly honorable and he tried really hard to demonstrate his beliefs in everything he did.

    Unfortunately, he was blinded to exactly what you referenced: The lies and deceit of the very organization that he followed. His caring for others cost him a lot in enemies made in the Kingdom Hall. Many of those who sought the kind of respect he commanded by merely being himself were jealous and they targeted him by attacking members of his family.

    When I realized that the organization was teaching lies it scared me to my core. I didn’t want to face it. I immediately thought of the dire cost I would incur if I acted on what I knew. I’m certain others go through that same personal “hell” when they finally wake up from the walking sleep they are in.

    It’s been a long hard road K as I’m sure it’s been for you. I think it would be good to talk. Painful, to be sure, but good.

    Message me your number when you get a chance and when I get some alone time I’ll give you a call. It’ll be good to catch up.

    All my best,


  19. Anonymous

    feeling ostracised, rejected and isolated is probably one of the most painful human experiences, feeling that there is no one who cares about you is so painful to the psyche, that’s why isolation is such an effective punishment, in prisons for example. JW Society exploit this human need, love bombing, creating the illusion of cohesion and solidarity, feeling that you belong to something bigger than yourself, before I knew it, I was hooked in. After so much researching my mind eventually broke through all the lies. At first I was so angry, I felt that the JW’s took away my only chance of living in peace, a paradise and loving world.
    There is a great life outside of JW’s, reach out to other people who feel lonely through volunteering opportunities, I firmly believe that you get far more back than you give. I gave up my dream of university education when I was in, I was so brainwashed. For me personally , the only thing that is important is the example from Jesus, love one another. I have found love from a wonderful husband, and I am now only one term away from qualifying as a special needs teacher. I wish all those who have or on the verge of leaving deepest warmth and strength, you do have a new life waiting for you,

  20. I so love this!

    Thank you Alena. You are truly awesome! God outdid Himself when He made you.


  21. Anonymous

    Thank you for your kind comments,but …… No, definitely not!
    I’ve made many mistakes and at the age of …… whatever it is only now that I’ve been fortunate enough to let go of so many insecurities. No more special than anyone else..

  22. Alena,

    You are worth more than many sparrows.


  23. Anonymous

    Don’t get the “sparrows” reference, lost in translation across the pond! !!!

    Looking forward to Easter break, to enjoy time with family, not the serious, stern memories at Kingdom Halls.

    I do go to church, (Easter, Christmas, weddings, funerals, etc), I used to have communion when I was younger, prior to JW’S, I passed over the emblems when I was in. . I am considering whether to have communion again.

    Do any other ex jw’s think about this. ,

  24. Matthew 10:29-31

    “Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground outside your Father’s care. And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. So don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.”

  25. Anonymous

    how did I miss that scripture? Beautiful words and sentiment

  26. One of my most favorite and most comforting scriptures.


  27. Thank you for this blog! I was expised to some of these beliefs through my formative years, and even though I never attended a JW chruch service or study or prayer session, the information in the Watchtower publications left lasting and damaging impressions on me that have had negative consequences in my life and of my views of God. I’m just now unserstanding where some of my skewed views are coming from. I’m glad to have found this. Hopefully it will help deprogram some of what was fed into my brain about society and God.

  28. Bill Stoughton

    Thank you Mary…… it breaks my heart when I read comments like yours and stop and think about their elementary publications that they use and also the ones that they pass out to their victims.
    These people are required to go out and spend a certain amount of time “preaching and conducting Bible studies” which are not bible studies, but them telling you what they believe. What they believe is what the watchtower society tells them to believe. Can you imagine someone telling you what to believe. If you read the Bible for yourself, God will speak to you.
    Woman have no role in this religion, yet are required to go out and preach and have Bible studies.
    They call themselves jehovas’ witnesses, but that name came into being during the thirteenth century by a Catholic monk and was never in the Bible until around 1530 and this was all due to the Catholic Church during that time.
    I hope that you feel better about yourself and about God.
    Blessings to you

  29. My pleasure Mary. It’s my way of giving back for all that I’ve been through and learned.

    What this cult does to people is absolutely insidious and the effects of even short-term exposure can be lifelong.

    I hope you can break free of the hold of this cult and others like it.


  30. Bill Stoughton

    Doug……can you enlighten me. I was just informed that JW’s celebrate the commemoration of the death of Jesus Christ. I said that was great, do you celebrate His resurrection and they said no.
    Why one without the other. That means that Jesus was just a man and died for His sins.

  31. And that is exactly what they believe Bill. They actively teach that Christ was just a man, perfect, but just a man and not God incarnate. They also believe, oddly enough, that Christ was Michael the Archangel in His previous existence in heaven.

    By teaching that Christ was just a man and not God incarnate, they have effectively taken Him off the throne and put themselves squarely in His place.

    You just can’t make this stuff up!


  32. Bill Stoughton

    Thank you Doug, if Jesus is just a man, then there is no salvation. How is it that they call themselves Christians.

  33. They believe that Christ, being perfect, and without sin, was an even exchange for Adam’s original sin in the Garden of Eden. They believe that when Christ died, that was God allowing his “son” to be sacrificed for mankind. But they also believe, and teach, that Christ wasn’t God but rather was the firstborn “son” of God in that He was the first creation by God.

    They completely discount John 1, John 8:58, Colossians 1, Luke 24:52, Matthew 28:17-20 and much more. They have fundamentally changed the rendering and the subsequent meaning of the scriptures in their New World Translation to cover up the original meaning in the Greek so that none of their followers would learn that Jesus is God. This is why the first order of business when conducting a home “Bible” study is to get the “householder” out of their King James or New International version and into the New World Translation as quickly as possible.

    It’s all pretty damning and all true. When I found out the real meaning of the scriptures, and read them in the original Greek, seeing it with my own eyes, I realized that Christ is God. Thus began my long journey out of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.


  34. Bill Stoughton

    Again, thank you Doug. I keep hearing that Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. I suppose that they are referring to Colossians 1:15, but that is not the meaning of the verse at all.
    When one reads any of the gospels you immediately get the sense that Jesus is God just by the comments that the religious leaders made even to the point of wanting to stone him or what came to be, they crucified Him because He claimed to be God. How can one not understand who He is if you have read any of the Bible.
    You are willing to sell your soul to Satan to follow some group of deceivers.

  35. When someone is fed a false narrative and then told that their translation is the only one that is truly “from Jehovah” then they will believe darned near anything.

    The Watchtower recruits those who are disenfranchised, uneducated, and unchurched. When you don’t know what the real thing looks like, you can be fooled by just about anything.


  36. Bill Stoughton

    I just asked this same person why Jesus was put to death and the first answer was that He was nailed to a stake and I said I didn’t ask you how He died, I asked you why they put Him to death and the answer was that it was God’s plan because of Adam.
    Imagine, the Jewish religious leaders knew God’s.
    I told them if they had ever read the gospels then they would know the answer and I was told, that they had by themselves and they swore that they had and I said that if you had, you would not be a JW.

  37. Yes. I believe that the only way someone could come to a different conclusion, after reading the gospels, is to be fed a false counterfeit gospel.

    Of course, all of this was foretold.


  38. Anonymous

    Happy Easter and best wishes to everyone, especially those separated from loved ones who are still enticed by twisted version of “truth” and hope.

  39. Happy Easter Alena!

  40. marc shields LOL/Doug:”THATs NOT VERY THEOCRATIC !!!!” LOL-Do you know how tired i got of hearing that? I was born into jws since birth 1955-my dad was an ex army drill sgt-ft.leonardwood-turned jw-when he met my mom.He made it to assistant congregation overseer until he opened his eyes. I was Guilt tripped with fear and “dying with the wicked” when Armageddon comes in 1975″-baptized in a very small horse trough at age 14. I got out(d.a) when i was18 and got my own place.After many “sheep-herding” insult calls and a mass amount of harrassment- they coaxed me back by pitting my entire family against me until I returned. I married a J.W. girl..(an ONLY CHILD).. and had 2 kids. The elders gave me hell for having a above average pay job at BOEING…and tried to accuse me of building solely war planes when 98% of the work was passenger aircraft…constantly calling me before the elders threatening disfellowshipping tho my job wasn;t building war products. I disassociated myself got a job out of state w/a great relocation package….just to get my wife and kids away from her J.W. fanatic parents. It didnt work…they moved to our new area and the trouble intensified.I tried to get my wife to ditch that cult for 23 years of marriage,but she always put jws before me.(so much for submission to husbands).she left me twice by having jws move her and my 2 minor children out of state w/o my knowledge or permission w/i was at work/i.e. kidnapping them. Finally she threw me out because the elders said i couldnt financially support them because of an on the job injury and shortly after; i got injured by a drunk driver. I was NEVER unfaithful to her and i hadnt died… but the jw grounds for divorce are different in colorado vs. kansas where i was raised according to local elders in colorado! She had the right to Divorce me due to the fact I couldn’t work. As soon as she threw me out to my annoyance my 43 yr old PIONEER ex disassociated herself immediately and began sleeping w/20yr old guys-so much my 22 yr old daughter got enraged at my ex wifes behavior moved out and married a FANATIC super controlling JW guy- became pioneers-then missionaries in NEPAL x!!! She won’t ever talk to me or my ex-until we get back in the cult…and my ex shacked up w/ some fat rich guy and wont be my friend to this day. I really think our marriage would have been awesome without the jw friction that always shoved a wedge between us. The hardest thing was it ruining my family bonds and my ex-stating she only stayed in it for the kids…which are both fk’d up for life because of it…and of course…her never apologizing for making my life and marriage a hell with that cult…and thwarting my boeing/lockheed martin retirements- REMEMBER-“the new systems coming soon-YOU won’t need them! Its just a waste of money!” the faceful excreeting slave said….bad jw association spoils useful habits….simple things like marriages, families and pensions -and trix is for kids( still a little bitter here!”)

  41. What a train wreck!

    We share the same last name so I’m feeling your pain a bit more than normal.

    Having been dragged into this cult by my mother back in 1967, I can tell you and anyone else reading this post that, as hard as it is to believe for an outsider, your story rings true and is not the exception.

    Isn’t it interesting that your ex-wife started sleeping with men half her age and then your kids went in diametrically opposite paths? It’s all due to the programming my friend.

    It starts with the mindless dependency the Watchtower demands from their followers. This dependency encroaches upon the financial and even the educational needs of their followers. Any attempt at commercial or educational advancement is strongly discouraged on the part of any Jehovah’s Witness. Why? Because to become successful in either of those pursuits decreases their dependency on the organization. This, in turn, decreases the organization’s ability to dictate how they live their lives. This, in turn, shows other Jehovah’s Witnesses that they don’t have to “put Jehovah first” which is Watchtower speak for spending all of your time working for them.

    It wasn’t so much that you worked for Boeing, it was that you had money. That was a threat to the elders and the organization. They resented you for it.

    I remember an idiot elder giving a talk from the platform, like it was yesterday, stating that people who have education or money think they are “big men” and that they don’t put Jehovah first in their lives. He had to be the most uneducated POS that ever walked in the Kingdom Hall. The guy could barely read and kept his family in a real dump for a house. His kids were very weird and if I was guessing I’d say their family tree didn’t have a lot of forks in it. He was a total jerk to everyone who he felt had more money or education than he did. He had a real “chip” on his shoulder. He resented my father because he was kind, respected, well-liked by most everyone in the Kingdom Hall and he had money. When this moron eventually achieved the Presiding Overseer position, he had Dad removed as a Ministerial Servant for some trumped up charges about his kids not being “active enough” in the ministry and the fact that my brother had a girlfriend. It was very public and very embarrassing for my father and our family. Dad took it on the chin but transferred to another Kingdom Hall shortly thereafter, and of course, he heard all about the fact that he wasn’t “following the lead of the organization” by attending where he was supposed to. That one act of defiance was the extent of his protest.

    In hindsight, I think this miscreant did me a favor. He allowed me to see what unchecked power can do to a person and what they can, in turn, do to other humans.

    Looking back, there were a handful of elders that I remember with fondness for their kindness and wisdom. However, the majority of them were utterly worthless, and those were the ones with the power in the Kingdom Hall. That “Holy Spirit” that selects them for their positions must have some serious flaws in detecting human character.

    I remember a Bethelite speech on tape that I listened to. His name was Brother Glass. He was bright, well spoken and he told the story of a man in another country who studied with and was baptized into the Jehovah’s Witnesses. He was well spoken, well thought of, and rose to the level of Ministerial Servant and then on to Elder. Eventually, he became a Circuit Overseer and then on to DO. Then, once he had obtained the highest level he could, he proceeded to turn in all of the people in the organization to the government authorities. You see he was a government plant and the Jehovah’s Witnesses were illegal in that country at the time.

    The question this brought to the fore was “How could the holy spirit (read “active force”) be selecting these men for their positions if this happened?”

    It really opened my eyes to the truth about “The Truth” and about those in power. It’s less about “divine selection” and more about the politics of men. Just as in large corporations, which the Watchtower most certainly is, those who demonstrate a willingness to walk the “party line” for the “corporate office” will always find their way up the theocratic “ladder”.

    However, those who show intelligence, and a willingness to question authority, even that of the elders or the Watchtower leadership when they encroach on their rights, will always be considered “troublemakers” and apostates. Interestingly enough, an apostate is considered to be far worse than an adulterer, murderer, thief, or even a child molester from a Jehovah’s Witness’ standpoint. Apostasy is the very worst crime any Jehovah’s Witness could ever commit and they live in absolute terror of ever being accused of it. To be found guilty of apostasy is a metaphorical “death sentence” to a Jehovah’s Witness and his standing with family and friends as well as the congregation as a whole. Is it any wonder? That’s the one thing that an authoritarian organization (with a lot to lose and hide) like the Watchtower cannot and must not abide.

    I’m glad you found this blog Marc and I hope that you find some solace and healing here.


  42. Bill Stoughton

    The more I see and hear about the watchtower society, I know that it is Satan’s organization. Where else is God referred to by name, that they wrongly try to ram down your throat. Where else does an organization say that they are the only one to interpret the Bible and that you must believe as they instruct. One of the sad things is they just “commerated” the death of Jesus with the last supper, which they don’t participate in because they are not one of the self appointed, chosen. They constantly talk about the kingdom, which they distort to some paradise, when they should be concerned about their own soul, because they are not going to be part of any kingdom. And in that day are they going to be surprised when they find out that the sinless man who is God, that they deny as such could have saved them from their sin and given them eternal life if they would have only learned to read their own Bible.
    Eternal damnation is not worth following Michael the archangel and letting someone else tell you what to believe. Of course they use the Bible; that is what makes them so dangerous. Satan is a master of lies.

  43. Kim

    Hi Doug. I’ve been reading your various blog posts with interest over this past weekend. Right upfront, I want to say I have no dog in this race as I am an atheist. However, the majority of my family on my father’s side, excluding my agnostic father, are JWs, and this also includes my sister and even my late mother for the few years before her death. I spent a large majority of my childhood fending off various attempts at religious conversion, not just from the JWs but also many of my friends who were Southern Baptist and tearfully worried their friend would burn in Hell forever due to not being saved. It’s not easy growing up in the Bible Belt, especially for someone who doesn’t believe in god. I could never talk to anyone about it as an atheist is next door to a Satan worshipper in rural Mississippi. But I digress. My question is concerning your current belief in what Hell actually means according to the Bible. Considering my own non-belief, the one thing I always agreed with the JWs on is that no loving god would subject his creations to an ever-lasting torment. I would be very interested in your current views on this subject, and if you’ve already written a post on it, you can just direct me to that. Thanks.


    A lot of people make the same fundamental mistake when they state that somehow being condemned to an eternity in hell is God’s choice in the matter. My opinion, and I believe the Bible backs it up, is that hell is a choice that WE make in that we remove ourselves from the love of God. We depart from Him, not the other way around.

    Consider a willful and disobedient child of ten, warned time and again by his parents not to go into the street, else dire harm should befall him. The child, failing to listen or even respect the parents, sneaks out of the house and decides to cross the very street he was warned about and is tragically hit and killed by an oncoming truck.

    Now where can we place blame? Can we charge the poor, distraught parents with neglecting their duty? Not hardly. They did the best they could for the child and tried, in vain, to prevent him from his choice. The child, although only ten, made an adult (free will) decision to blatantly disregard their warnings and, as a result, suffered the ultimate consequence for disobedience.

    I believe that hell is, for all practical purposes, just like that. I think that hell is the condition of being removed from God. I also believe that hell is a place of darkness and pain, an absence of light and love. Finally, I believe that hell is a choice that we make, not one that God makes for us.

    The Bible teaches that anyone who accepts the salvation that Christ gives freely, is saved. Those who reject it, reject Him and what He did for them, and thus seal their own fate.

    There are many instances and parables in the New Testament that give credence to my view.

    I’m sure that some would enjoy a much more vengeful, “Old Testament” version of God; a God of merciless judgment, meting out the most horrible punishments for the slightest infractions and imperfections. Christ, however, dispelled that view with His words, His actions, and His unconditional love that He displayed for mankind. He, in fact, openly condemned a rules or law based salvation in His interactions with the Jewish Pharisees as well as His own followers on numerous occasions.

    I believe, because we possess free will, that we each bear total responsibility for our salvation i.e. accepting Christ’s sacrifice on our behalf, or not.

    Ultimately, we aren’t punished for our choices, we are punished by our choices.

    I hope this helps you.


  45. Bill Stoughton

    Doug…. I am at a loss for words as to why people think that God doesn’t love them or hasn’t provided a way for their redemption. Look at John 3:16 and yet many even belong to Churches and go through the act , but never reach out to Jesus as their personal Savior.
    God wants that all to be saved, but he is not going to force himself on you.
    I’ll never understand.

  46. It’s not all their fault Bill. Many in the churches have done more to damage these people’s faith than Satan could ever hope to accomplish.

    Hypocritical, condescending and judgmental people abound in organized religion. They always have and always will, until Judgment Day.

    Matthew 13:24-30

    The Jehovah’s Witness leaders go even further by teaching a counterfeit gospel, that it is only through good works that a Christian may gain salvation. In their error, originated by occult ideas, they negate the ransom that Christ paid with His own blood, not only for themselves, but for all of their over seven million adherents. These poor people are without salvation and they don’t even know it.

    I believe that there are more true servants of Satan skulking inside the churches and cults than outside.

    Sad but true.


  47. Bill Stoughton

    Yes Doug, I think that Satan is definitely in charge of some churches.
    I was raised Catholic and while some may have an easier time convertating to saved by Grace, but never the less even after I converted, sometimes I am bombarded from Satan that I’m not saved, not good enough, on and on.
    You constantly have to read God’s word, submit yourself to good spiritual ministry and pray.
    Thanks again Doug.

  48. I totally agree Bill!

    Doubt, guilt, and weakness affect all of us. None of us are immune.

    Thanks for posting your thoughts. They are most appreciated.


  49. Anonymous

    I finally did it, I have qualified as a teacher, I will be graduating in March. Of course the jw’s would have preferred me to either continue living on benefits, taking a series of minimum wage jobs, struggle to pay rent, devote every spare minute to their ungodly organisation and rarely have quality time with my son. Fear is an extremely powerful weapon that the JW’s proactively use to elicit unworthiness and devalue people. I really hope that people who have posted here recounting their struggles who are continuing to suffer find strength and belief in themselves. The sadness that this organisation creates is narcissistic.

  50. Bill Stoughton

    Congratulations Alena on your achievement. Hopefully it will give you satisfaction and more time for the things that you enjoy.
    I don’t know what your status is with the jws, but I look at the things that my wife does and believes in and I just shake my head. How one can be so caught up in the watchtower publications instead of believing what the Bible says is beyond my comprehension. If it wasn’t so sad, it would be laughable.
    Good luck to you .

  51. I’m so very proud of you Alena! Congratulations!

    You really captured the entire Jehovah’s Witness’ organization in one sentence when you said:

    “Fear is an extremely powerful weapon that the JW’s proactively use to elicit unworthiness and devalue people.”

    That is the key to everything they do. If they can get you to believe you aren’t worthy of God’s love and that you can only get it through association with and working for them, that’s when they win.

    The damage this organization has inflicted on millions of people is simply incalculable. All of the suicides, broken marriages, estranged parents, disowned children, and broken people leaves a trail of collateral damage that they simply can’t deny. Neither can that avoid the blame for all of this when judgment day arrives, and it most definitely will come for them.

    Note Christ’s words in Matthew 7:22-23:

    “Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness.”

    I hope your journey inspires others as it has inspired me Alena.

    God bless you!


  52. Elizabeth

    Alena, I am so proud of you. Congratulations! I too became a teacher, focusing on teaching teenagers how to think critically and understand how language is used to achieve certain effects–in the context of literature and history. If I had known this I may never have remained a religious captive nearly as long. I go to school every day knowing my efforts are making a real difference in their lives, and we have a lot of fun in the process!
    I wish you the same joy and deep satisfaction. Everything you had to sacrifice to get here is worth it! May you love life and delight in your genuine spiritual journey now.
    Much love, Elizabeth

  53. Anonymous

    thank you all so much for your kind words and blessings. I studied with the jw’s for 4 years and was preparing to get baptised. However, it was not until I stsrted resesrching that I realised I had been conned, cheated, manipulated and lied too. I felt that any hope for my family’s peace was taken away from me, in particular it was the “new light ” BS, Doug’s wonderful blog, the brave ex jw’s who have contributed, and their backtracking, greedy, money hungry videos, even telling children to donate their pocketmoney,and ultimately the Australian commission investigations, two witness rule, mysogynistic abusers that woke me up. I fell hook line and sinker for their promises of a new paradise earth. I felt as though God himself had abandoned me. JW’.Org have absolutely nothing to do with Jesus, God or anything about the bible. I took back control I decided for myself, it’s a journey of one’s own decisions and discovery.
    I wish the strength of self belief and self love, I cannot imagine the pain, fearing the loss of family members to this terrible organisation, may your true God give strength.

  54. Bill Stoughton

    Will God show mercy on jws who have be decieved by Satan

  55. The Bible makes it quite clear: Those who will not accept the free gift of salvation through the only channel God has set, Jesus Christ, will not receive it.

    Matthew 7:21-23

  56. Bill Stoughton

    Thank you Doug…… that is sort of what I thought but wasn’t sure.

  57. “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father but through me.” – Jesus

  58. Bill Stoughton

    I don’t think that the jws practice that at all particularly when you add verse 7

  59. Bill Stoughton

    And you also have a wonderful day. May God’s blessings fill your heart to overflowing.

  60. Bill Stoughton

    Do JW’s read the Bible in reference to what they have read from watchtower publications, or do they just read by them.

  61. They always cite scriptures to back up their writing. This is consistent throughout their publications. So they will look up the scriptures and read them. Of course, they use the New World Translation and they read them in reference to the material in the publication as opposed to reading them in context with the scriptures themselves so they can be pulled out to justify just about anything they want.


  62. Bill Stoughton

    Thanks Doug, that is kind of what I thought.
    So then everything that they know and or believe is generated through the watchtower publications.
    I’ve been told some strange things by them and just wondered where they came from.
    Couple of days ago not only is Jesus not God, but He is also Michael the archangel.
    How do they begin to call themselves Christians.

  63. Both are accurate regarding their beliefs, yet not one shred of scripture exists that would indicate that Jesus is Michael the Archangel. They came up with His supposed “alter ego” and push that in order to further bolster their flawed belief that Christ isn’t God. The two go “hand in hand” in their teaching.

  64. Anonymous

    I know that its your free will to accept or not its Jesus words at Matthew 28:19,20- Go make disciples of people of all nations, Not all in Jesus times listen to him, they mocked his messages also. They are not recruiting people Their aim is to let people know the truth about Jehovah God, and the Good News about the future same as Jesus did. Your right as a neighbor is to listen or not . They will move on, the Good News of God will be preach regardless if people accept or not if people would listen to the message that they are preaching all from God’s word this world would be a much better place when bad things happen you would know what’s going on and not panic like the world does, When your Love one dies you would know the exact truth and what God has in store for your love ones in the future, So the next time a Jehovah Witness knock on your door, Listen they are not their to recruit you but to tell you the true about God, Death, Suffering, Hell, Heaven as Jesus said at John 17:17 -the truth will set you free, Don’t believe all the lies about Jehovah Witnesses.

  65. Been listening to that message since I’m three years old.

    It’s all a bunch of made up nonsense. I was told I’d never graduate high school, never get married, never have kids, until the “New System.” I was told that I had to put the Kingdom first so that I would “make it through” to paradise. This involved going to five hours of meetings per week while going out in service door to door, selling magazines and books published by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, and recruiting people to study the Bible with me.

    Here I am 56 years old and nothing has changed. The “End” never came. The “Great Tribulation” never came. “Armageddon” never came. “Millions Now Living Will Never Die!” was a lie told to thousands of people by J.F. Rutherford in the early 1900’s. All of those people died with hope in their hearts and a lie in their throats. Those who listen to and perpetuate these man-made concocted tales designed to instill fear in the listener get nothing for their trouble but distraction from their precious time and lives. They end up working, mindlessly, for the “Faithful and Discreet Slave”, in the vain hopes that their labor will buy them a ticket into paradise.

    I’ve watched people work and wait their entire lives for a “magic bus” that never comes.

    Wake up. That’s the purpose of this blog: To snap you out of your self-delusion and see things for what they are rather than what you hope they would or could be. Life is short, and it’s your life. Live it.


  66. Bill Stoughton

    Doug, where do JW’s come up with the idea that Jesus was created. Do they not read the many places in the Bible supporting that He is God.
    Have a wonderful day ☺️❤️

  67. They have changed key scriptures that disagree with their beliefs about Jesus. Then, when called out on it, they state that theirs is the true translation and that all others are heavily biased “mistranslations” by known Trinitarians. They go as far as to imply or infer that this is part of a world wide, historical “hatchet job” headed by Satan himself, designed to mislead the entire world.

    Such scriptures as John 1:1, John 8:58, and many others have been butchered through their New World Translation using questionable “one off” translations, such as the Johannes Greber translation, translated via spirit medium, the Emphatic Diaglott by Benjamin Wilson, a founder of the Adventist movement, and others to help bolster their highly unusual belief in Christ’s lack of divinity.

    What’s even more interesting, or disturbing, than their blatant disregard for accuracy in translation is the reason behind their actions. You see the Watchtower leadership has assumed the role of Christ in the minds of their followers and have added a new layer of “management” between the Christian and his God i.e. themselves. In doing so they usurp Christ so that they become the intercessors between the Great Crowd (i.e. all rank and file JW’s) and Jehovah.

    This gives them tremendous power over the believer, and limits the ability of a faithful Jehovah’s Witness to exercise his own God given rights and powers of reason to question anything they may teach that isn’t biblical.

    This isn’t hyperbole. This is pure fact and they teach it directly from their publications and pulpit.


  68. Bill Stoughton

    Thanks Doug, I almost get the feeling that on judgement day, they think that the WT society will stand along side of them. It’s really sad that the one day the they celebrate the last supper and they don’t even take communion. They are not the chosen and it’s probably good because they are not worthy. I’m amazed that before a meeting they go through all this WT literature and don’t even question anything. The times that I have read their publications, it literally made me sick to my stomach. All we can do is pray for them.
    Thanks again Doug.

  69. Happy to help Bill.


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